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2005?????
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I was born in 2005, I'm not that young
A literal infant
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:25 PM
Is it shocking because it's young, or because it's old
11:25 PM
You weren’t even a twinkle in your moms eye when the towers went down
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:25 PM
I kinda forget about that
11:25 PM
not that 9/11 happened, but that I wasn't alive when it did
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CoppermineKittygirl 6/21/2023 11:26 PM
I was also born '05, makes people really confused when I explain my 90s computer collection
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Wow, that is surprising
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CoppermineKittygirl
I was also born '05, makes people really confused when I explain my 90s computer collection
I thought you were like 40
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Okay I didn't think you were 40 lol
11:26 PM
But it is rare for younger people to get into retro stuff
11:26 PM
I grew up with 90s computers, but boy do I not miss them
11:27 PM
(though win95 games are incredibly nostalgic)
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:27 PM
So did I 😭
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gravemilk ↩️
Reply to: I thought you were like 40
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My cousin is like 40 and is the only woman on the west coast who knows how to fix pinball machines
11:27 PM
Oh I just realized that’s not relevant
11:27 PM
Oopsies
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:27 PM
That is such a cool skill though
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It’s really more the affect for me than the retro computers
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:27 PM
I wish my family had niche interests
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I wish my family had niche interests
She’s the only cool one tbf
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:28 PM
Other than my grandpap knowing how to make turtle soup
11:28 PM
And keeping an oil drum full of dead animals that he'd sell to the glue factory in the 1970's (he was a trapper who sold pelts, IIRC)
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Milk
I thought you were like 40
CoppermineKittygirl 6/21/2023 11:28 PM
what about us made you think that?
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Milk
It’s really more the affect for me than the retro computers
^
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:29 PM
So you know, practical, sane, normal interests that aren't extremely fucking wild nowdays
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Your grandpap seems like my kind of guy
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:31 PM
I still want to try that turtle soup
11:31 PM
he's not a great person, but I need to know what that tastes like
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Do you know about mock turtles
11:31 PM
And mock turtle soup
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
And keeping an oil drum full of dead animals that he'd sell to the glue factory in the 1970's (he was a trapper who sold pelts, IIRC)
berockly (TTG) 6/21/2023 11:32 PM
This seems normal enough
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Milk
It’s really more the affect for me than the retro computers
CoppermineKittygirl 6/21/2023 11:33 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by that?
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CoppermineKittygirl
I'm not sure what you mean by that?
Sorry I just meant it’s just the way you express yourself. No nonsense.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 12:27 AM
These are the same people that dosed civilians with LSD and thought that would result in mind control
@Milk - jump and all they needed was just some social meeia
12:28 AM
The CIA experienced with the occult in the 70s thinking they might use it against Russia, realized it didn't work and has abandoned it since then. We're safe
@Reguile - jump they figured out the real stuff and showed us the fake stuff. Can you see USSR around anymore?
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Reagan actually took down the Berlin Wall with psychic and occult forces
12:29 AM
It’s true. History books just won’t tell you
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 12:29 AM
That's a fair point, but believing something fake is a powerful force
@A long kiss goodnight - jump wow you don’t have to be so mean towards tulpamancers..
12:31 AM
You weren’t even a twinkle in your moms eye when the towers went down
@Milk - jump you mean second lord of the rings?
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
You weren’t even a twinkle in your moms eye when the towers went down
@Milk - jump you mean second lord of the rings?
Yes. Barad-dur fell in 2001
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 12:32 AM
But it is rare for younger people to get into retro stuff
@Reisen - jump i was involved in historical reconstruction group, is that retro
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(15th century)
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Yes. Barad-dur fell in 2001
@Milk - jump nice
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I was also born '05, makes people really confused when I explain my 90s computer collection
@CoppermineKittygirl - jump was i really the only one that knew you were like 18
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thought it was M&M the candy
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Luminesce ↩️
Reply to: Is that where the system name comes from? that's crazy
1:51 AM
well like either way CIA document can be disappointing bc of some shit lmao
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ ↩️
Reply to: > The CIA experienced with the occult in the 70s thinking they might use it against Russia, realized…
1:51 AM
__ would agree
1:52 AM
we both heard about telepathy stuff before the CIA believed in before.
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I was born in 2005, I'm not that young
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/22/2023 1:54 AM
wait what?
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 1:54 AM
What?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) ↩️
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/22/2023 1:55 AM
i assume people are older than me all the time
1:55 AM
except for lolcery maybe
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What about meeeee?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/22/2023 1:58 AM
i did assume you where younger too
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or just weird in some way
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How old am i destin
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/22/2023 5:18 AM
I feel like desting and kei are older than me, and if Khaos is an alter she(?)'s younger than me
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Chihiro (he/they) | Space Scouts 3(🏝)0 BOT 6/22/2023 5:23 AM
I assume desting’s the same age as me, Kei’s a couple years younger, Khaos is probably a little bit younger than me
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 8:46 AM
How old am i destin
@Kei Wendt - jump 23
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Kei Wendt
How old am i destin
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/22/2023 1:29 PM
123.14
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If anyone here were younger than Hannah that'd be a problem
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
How old am i destin
@Kei Wendt - jump 23
Damn i'm flattered
2:46 PM
Spoilers: i'm 18
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Kei Wendt
Damn i'm flattered
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/22/2023 2:57 PM
I think they were joking.
2:57 PM
I assumed you were younger than me too.
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Oh lmao
3:04 PM
I'm that immature am i...
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Yuka
If anyone here were younger than Hannah that'd be a problem
឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/22/2023 5:42 PM
To be fair, I'm almost 14
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so someone could be like just 13 and it would be fine
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:07 PM
From the standpoint of TOS, sure.
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I still don't think someone 13 is usually a good idea for tulpamancy
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A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:23 PM
I believe if the tulpamancer is a minor, grace should be given to them, especially 15-17 year olds
6:24 PM
I think most if not all of the problems with minors practicing tulpamancy comes from adults demanding they take it as seriously as they do, and/or in the same way they do.
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/22/2023 6:26 PM
I mean, tulpamancy really depends on metal age more than physical age
6:27 PM
like, a really immature 30 year old would probably be worse at tulpamancing correctly than a really mature 15 year old
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:27 PM
I'm not saying they can't do it, it's just that my experience has shown me that younger people have less life experience, and thus, less concept of what "forever" feels like. That's not to say all tulpamancy is permanent, but you certainly don't want to start it one day just to drop it the next.
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/22/2023 6:27 PM
That is fair
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And I definitely agree with the "don't start it on day one"
6:28 PM
like, I definitely wanted too but I'm still thinking about if I really do want it and all the results that could happen
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:28 PM
Teenagers can be impulsive, and I find it easy to get caught up in ideas that may be more harm than good, especially starting a system, or a larger one at that with little experience.
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I'm not saying they can't do it, it's just that my experience has shown me that younger people have less life experience, and thus, less concept of what "forever" feels like. That's not to say all tulpamancy is permanent, but you certainly don't want to start it one day just to drop it the next.
A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:28 PM
I actually have the opposite opinion. The faster they "give up" on their tulpa, the less damage being done (and the more likely their tulpa isn't really developed enough to be their own individual yet)
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:29 PM
Yeah, that's fair, but at the same time, you can't expect all of them to give up so easily.
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It could yield success in many cases, but also failure in others.
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Just like an adult tulpamancer, I believe minors need to be properly educated before starting tulpamancy to make sure they know what they want to get out of it.
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But the impulsively of teenagers makes it harder for this to happen, imo.
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A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:30 PM
I find trying to get teens to not be impulsive just makes them more impulsive
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:31 PM
I barely consider a 13 year old to be a teenager, ngl.
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A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:31 PM
And when you're 17, your sense of self isn't even fully realized either, if they give up on their tulpa 3 months later is it really a bad thing?
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:31 PM
The time between 13-18 is filled with so many changes in maturity and life experience, its wild to lump all of them into being the same demographic.
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A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:32 PM
Like I said, most of the time it's the 15-17 year olds that everyone gets angry about, not the 13 and 14 year olds
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:32 PM
A period with so much turbulence and personal self discovery can make it harder to keep a tulpa
6:33 PM
I think it's best for young people to focus on themselves first, then their system
6:33 PM
Thats subjective, but certainly not the worst thing to happen.
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Ranger[Cat_SG] ↩️
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6:34 PM
We were 14, and we're almost 18 now, and even with my feelings about minors starting tulpamancy, I do see positives to my being so young.
6:34 PM
However, there are also clear cons.
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I think it's best for young people to focus on themselves first, then their system
A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:35 PM
Ah, I see what you mean. I definitely don't want to encourage minors to make tulpas, but I feel that way about anyone. However, I find it futile to give resistance to someone who want tulpas, regardless of their age. I would only really go out of my way to talk someone out of tulpamancy if they report having an obvious mental health problem that would complicate things
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/22/2023 6:35 PM
Yeah, that's fair
6:36 PM
I don't want to condone tulpamancy to anyone, but if they want to take it up, it's not really my job to gatekeep them. Rather, simply state how I truthfully feel about the topic.
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